tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post7163642790141301827..comments2017-08-28T10:59:56.742-04:00Comments on The Quest for Comedic Stardom: The Myth of the Heckler (Part 4 of ?)Lucy Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14221491508556265095noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-48804779512818726992007-11-13T08:44:00.000-05:002007-11-13T08:44:00.000-05:00p.s. Come to think of it, there's always a feeling...p.s. Come to think of it, there's always a feeling of satisfaction watching a comedian cleverly put down a heckler. I've always marveled at and looked up to the ability, probably because it's one of the things I'm not good at myself.Indeterminacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112417911577798263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-21656791243009521162007-11-13T08:36:00.000-05:002007-11-13T08:36:00.000-05:00Enjoyed reading your series on hecklers.I wish I k...Enjoyed reading your series on hecklers.<BR/><BR/>I wish I knew how to deal with hecklers in real life. Usually I only think of a really clever comeback after it's already too late.Indeterminacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112417911577798263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-30260063767681417112007-09-12T19:37:00.000-04:002007-09-12T19:37:00.000-04:00Lucy: my "inciting order" thing takes place if St...Lucy: my "inciting order" thing takes place if Step One hasn't done the trick, and those around the vocal nuisance haven't stepped up to shut him down. What I was saying was -- if ignoring the noise doesn't work, and if comedic criticizing of the noise-maker doesn't work, go to the folks the noise-maker has to answer to (tablemates and neighbors) to get their buy-in that this person must stop detracting from their night.The Mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13466433750698090728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-34837357406858169422007-09-12T18:03:00.000-04:002007-09-12T18:03:00.000-04:00Lucy,Thanks for stopping by my blog and leaving a ...Lucy,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by my blog and leaving a comment!! I love comedy almost as much as I love driving. I can't tell you how many times I have the comedy channel on XM in the truck - especially when I'm driving at night. Good thing no one is around to hear me laughing out loud like a lunatic!!!<BR/><BR/>Hope you see you stop by the blog again and check in on my travels! I will be checking out more of your blog - especially the video posts!!<BR/><BR/>We are in NY often (I was born and rasied there) to visit family, etc. Do you have a schedule or something of where you perform? It would be great to catch your act sometime! Let me know.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the funny!<BR/><BR/>Salena<BR/>The Daily Rant<BR/>www.bellavenere.blogspot.comThe Daily Ranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10489187226759792239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-66506955252857768512007-09-12T14:38:00.000-04:002007-09-12T14:38:00.000-04:00I go along with you about allowing the annoying he...I go along with you about allowing the annoying heckler on stage and leting the audience do the justice.<BR/>In the Heckler by Jamie Kennedy one guy mentions shooting the heckler - I don't go with that except I got a laugh out of it.<BR/>I thought though about your advice, if the heckler comes down to the stage; you make a really good point I think, and about: "If 50% of the audience doesn't hear it, it was never said" so you have the advantage if he does come down you can put words into his mouth.<BR/>"Excuse me ladies and gentlemen as you bend slightly down, and regardless of what he says you come back up and say: "We've got a delivery here," and then back to him: "Bring it around back will you, I'm on the stage right now! and hammer him till he crawls back up the aisle out of your face.<BR/>Just a thought.<BR/>Y;-) PaddyMomentary Madnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05314884356743431845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-48877197255929868452007-09-12T13:57:00.000-04:002007-09-12T13:57:00.000-04:00Rhonda - I'm glad you saw the entertainment value ...Rhonda - I'm glad you saw the entertainment value in it.<BR/><BR/>The Mushroom - I'm not sure entirely of what you are asking, but I think using 'Step One' would satisfy what you mention. Being courteous and somehow his family/friends to sort of silence him beforehand can be an effective tool. But if they're all "in on it," your attempt to be civilized can be proven futile.<BR/><BR/>The Wailer - Exactly.<BR/><BR/>Raffi - Exactly.<BR/><BR/>Drips of Paint - Definitely. Experience and more time in the battlefield will help you assess the situation in an expeditious manner. The 50% rule was something that astonished me, too. <BR/><BR/>And I still have a great respect for patient artists, like yourself. <BR/><BR/>Mutley the Dog - Hope you make it back!<BR/><BR/>Rol Hirst - Yes, I addressed the "vocal conversationalist" in this post. Hopefully, the method I mention will clarify that dilemma. Thanks for coming back!<BR/><BR/>Rockdog - Glad this sent you on a YouTube spree! Good to hear!<BR/><BR/>Josh Homer - As always, clearly you have the experience to be able to suss out the real info here and educate us all. So thank you.Lucy Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221491508556265095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-87043321888702810392007-09-12T13:33:00.000-04:002007-09-12T13:33:00.000-04:00Hey Lucy, good blog, but the Jamie Kennedy movie. ...Hey Lucy, <BR/>good blog, but the Jamie Kennedy movie. Come on. First off it was all staged (his parts anyway) I was there when he filmed the stuff at the NYC improv. He had a dude come in with him say lines, and Jamie shot back prewritten lines. That's not dealing with a heckler, that's acting. <BR/><BR/>the main thing qith hecklers is their are no rules, except the audience must know what's going on (great coverage or this in your blog). Other than that you have to go by the audience member's intent. Some hecklers think they are helping you with your act. Other's, like you mentioned, are there to try to destroy you. These types should not get 3 strikes. If their first comment was malicious enough you an skip to your step 3.<BR/><BR/>something you don't have to worry about, since you are a double minority, is status. As a male comic it's very rare that an audience will let me totally destroy a female audience memeber unless she is out of control. I have to be at least semi-nice, or become a draw. When you're a draw, like in the Joe Rogan clip, you can do almost anything because the audience is there to see you and they are very familiar with your style of comedy and are rooting for you more than anyone (even if they came with the heckler they like you more, think about it. They would not pay $20 and a 2 drink min to listen to their friend talk for an hour). <BR/><BR/>but like anything comedy there are not hard rules for it. There are clips of pros calling people to the stage and giving them mics. There's even a clip on youtube a comic hitting an audience member with a guitar! (the audience turned on the comic and the show ended). Only thing is don't let them take you out the zone. <BR/><BR/>later.Josh Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00757919675054009112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-65893023064600645022007-09-12T10:40:00.000-04:002007-09-12T10:40:00.000-04:00Funny video! I must see this movie some day.This l...Funny video! I must see this movie some day.<BR/><BR/>This lead to my searching for more heckler type videos on YouTube. Saw one comic get punched after he went off on a noisy guy in the crowd. Joe Rogan seems to be the king of squashing hecklers!MrRyanOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00607621271037613315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-47894154073293125422007-09-12T09:29:00.000-04:002007-09-12T09:29:00.000-04:00great post! good stuff for other aspiring comedian...great post! good stuff for other aspiring comedians.<BR/><BR/>best of luck:)Portiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267963630814453792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-32892160024542468412007-09-12T08:03:00.000-04:002007-09-12T08:03:00.000-04:00Enjoyed the series. Now how do you deal with those...Enjoyed the series. Now how do you deal with those people who're not specifically heckling... just engaging in their own full volume conversation as though you're not even there. Because, as an audience member, those cretins really get my goat!Rolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02103804480646939038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-72182342230513180242007-09-12T04:55:00.000-04:002007-09-12T04:55:00.000-04:00This is a long series of posts isn't it - I shall ...This is a long series of posts isn't it - I shall return another time to read the rest...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-34787723578181627562007-09-12T03:38:00.000-04:002007-09-12T03:38:00.000-04:00Hi LucyThe funny thing is I guess the more you enc...Hi Lucy<BR/><BR/>The funny thing is I guess the more you encounter heckler the more experience, confindent and flow you develope in dealing with the next one.....sori, a scary thought.<BR/><BR/>Running workshops on how to deal with heckler is pretty popular I guess... and perhaps throw in a final exam about heckler before the professional comedien diploma can be granted.<BR/><BR/>I really like the 50% rule have not thought about that one.<BR/><BR/>Don't they have something similar to no smoking sign or no parking sign in the club?.... or may be hire a few of those big bad looking bouncer wearing T-shirt with no heckling sign on. <BR/><BR/>Well after these 4 posts I do have respect for your job and hell it is difficult .....drips of painthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04210191154107968845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-74600973033079738912007-09-12T02:23:00.000-04:002007-09-12T02:23:00.000-04:00i believe it would be a good idea to have a sniper...i believe it would be a good idea to have a sniper hiding in the rafters with poison darts. one peep and bammm... problem solved. btw, the video was hilarious.raffihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04843220599568904061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-29760816897134343452007-09-11T16:25:00.000-04:002007-09-11T16:25:00.000-04:00turn the table on the heckler with your own style ...turn the table on the heckler with your own style of thoughts, leave him beg for mercy later hehehethewailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130533148555618873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-5627340430752830032007-09-11T15:33:00.000-04:002007-09-11T15:33:00.000-04:00Lucy, what's your opinion of inciting order? Not ...Lucy, what's your opinion of inciting order? Not in a riotous way, but in the addressing of the problem child asking (in the manner that entertainers ask a pretty lady up front who is with her tonight) if the people next to him are friends or family, which they may be, and saying something courteously curbing to them like "Ahh, you're his date tonight? You may have got dinner out of him before the show, but you might want to remind him who's not getting 'dessert' after the show if he continues embarassing you in front of two hundred people." <BR/><BR/>You make points on sociology about what inspired the bravado to heckle or participate, and that can work both ways: he's out to amuse the crowd, and a comedian should be able to use the double edge of the concept to embarass him into silence (or being outnumbered, the crowd's presence can enforce silence).The Mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13466433750698090728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7850527497873923412.post-41320036521940004442007-09-11T14:45:00.000-04:002007-09-11T14:45:00.000-04:00hilarious video!hilarious video!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com